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Short Cast: Entomology and tenkara
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In this short cast Daniel looks at how tenkara and western fly fishing treat entomology, the study of insects. Western fly fishing is built around matching the hatch. Tenkara places more weight on how the fly is presented than on how closely it imitates a particular bug.
Daniel does not say entomology is unimportant. His point is that you do not need Latin names to catch fish, but a little knowledge of how insects behave can guide your technique.
In this episode
- Why the origins of each method matter: leisure anglers who tied and tested many flies at home, versus commercial anglers in Japan who wanted one simple fly and kept moving upstream.
- A scene from a talk where a presenter's Latin bug names went over a room of beginners' heads.
- Why Daniel thinks motion matters more than exact shape, size and color, and how mayflies and caddis move differently in the air and in the water.
- A recap of core tenkara techniques: the dead drift, pulsing the fly, drifting and stopping, and moving the fly to a new spot and pausing.
- How those techniques echo real insects, from nymphs pulsing toward the surface and resting in the current to caddis skating on the surface film.
- A story from the Colorado River with Dr. Ishigaki and a group of seven. After clouds rolled in, Daniel recognized a caddis hatch, and skating the fly on the surface led to many fish and several doubles.
Mentioned in this episode
- Bugs of the Underworld, an award-winning film on underwater insects by Ralph and Lisa Cutter
- Dr. Ishigaki, who was visiting Colorado at the time of the story
- Music by Nick Ogawa (Takenobu), from his album of songs including one called Fishing
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0:00This is Daniel Galhardo and you're listening to the Tenkara Cast, a podcast about the simple Japanese method of fly-fishing, Tenkara. In the Tenkara Cast, we'll be sharing information on techniques, history, philosophy, and Tenkara stories from anglers all over the world. This podcast is brought to you by Tenkara USA, introducing Tenkara outside of Japan since 2009. It's only possible we create content such as this podcast and videos because of your support. So we thank you so very much for purchasing Tenkara USA rods, lines, and flies. I hope you enjoy learning more about the simple method of fly fishing. Hey everyone, thanks for tuning in to another episode of the Tenkara Cast. This is going to be a short cast where I talk about the relationship of entomology or the study of bugs and tenkara. So in fly fishing, or at least in western fly fishing, one of the central concepts is what we call match the hatch.
1:02And that's the idea of seeing what bugs are out there floating around, hatching, if you will, out of the water, and deducing that that's what the fish are going to be eating, that's what they're keyed in on a lot of times. and then we try to match those bugs with a replica, you know, with a fly that imitates those particular bugs. So that's like one of the central aspects of fly fishing. In Tenkara, if you have been reading about it, you probably have noticed that we don't talk a lot about that usually. It's, you know, and it's not that it's completely irrelevant. It's just that we don't pay quite as much attention to it. not too long ago i was in a fly fishing event of sorts where somebody was trying to introduce fly fishing to an audience of people who primarily have never fly fished before and he started his presentation talking about bugs and it was really interesting to see when he started throwing a couple of latin names around you know like i don't even remember the names because I'm not in tune with them anymore. But I looked around and I could see the faces of a couple of people and the information was just going right over the head. You know, they were interested in learning about fly fishing. They were not signing up for a biology class. You know, it was very clear to me. So, you know, studying bugs or being interested in bugs, being interested in the life that is on the streams.
2:41I think it is a very cool part of fly fishing. I think a lot of people get a lot of pleasure out of that. But the central message that I like to share is that it's not really crucial for you to learn the Latin names of different bugs in the water if you want to be successful at fly fishing. Again, some people are going to get a lot of pleasure out of that. Some people are going to love turning the rocks in the water to see what bugs they can find. But a lot of other people are just interested in getting a fly in the water and seeing if they can entice a fish. So whereas in fly fishing, in western fly fishing, one of the concepts is the idea of matching the hatch. In Tenkara, one of the main concepts is that the presentation of the fly is much more important than the imitation of the fly. And I think part of that comes from the background of both methods. of fly fishing, where Western fly fishing might have been done, at least when it started being written about, almost as a philosophical endeavor, as a leisure, as a sport. Tenkara was being done by commercial anglers in the mountain streams of Japan, really more concerned about catching fish than thinking about how to catch fish in a certain way.
4:05And that difference in the origins of the two methods, I think, is really important because it tells us the people doing it for fun, as a leisure kind of way to study things, when they got home, they just tied a bunch of flies and experimented a whole lot to see if something would work better than another. and that kind of legacy has lived on where you know we might get home and we tie flies that you know and and then we go back in the experiment with you know with the fly see what works we can second guess ourselves we had the luxury of time the commercial angler he got home if he lost a few flies he had to tie some more but he just wanted to tie the simplest flies that he could something quick and simple that he knew had a really good chance of working. And when it came to time on the water, the difference was also very important because the commercial angler had to catch a lot of fish for a living.
5:07And he was not very interested in second-guessing his fly choice all the time. So he kind of kept one fly on, and he might have tried playing with the fly in different ways underwater. water. But he was not going to be interested in taking the fly out of the water, clipping the line that was kind of hard to replace, and putting a new fly on, and that kind of thing. Second guessing essentially every single fly choice if he didn't catch a fish every few minutes. So the approaches were a little different. One person, maybe in Europe, would have sat on a pool, cast one fly a few times. If that didn't produce, maybe he would have tied the next invention. If that didn't produce, he would have probably stayed in the same pool, tied the next one. Whereas in Japan, the commercial angler, he would have tied one fly on and try a few casts in a pool. If that pool didn't produce a fish, it's probably a little bit more effective for him and he didn't have to waste materials as well. If he took a few steps upstream, try the next pool, see if the next fish is going to be willing to take the fly. But let's talk a little bit about entomology and how that all kind of comes in place here. It's something that I've thought about a fair amount, and it's good, actually, that I have a little bit of a background in the western fly fishing match the hatch background, and then I kind of switched over to the Tenkara, you know, approach of keeping the fly in the water as long as I can, not switching flies very often. So when it comes to entomology, a lot of times we might be concerned with the shape of the flies you know what are the flies that are kind of hatching today what are the flies that we can see underwater what are the flies that are fluttering around in the air you know is there any fly that is more prolific today than another and then we go on about the imitating the shape of the fly primarily but one of the jokes that a friend of mine mentioned in terms of uh you know trying to match the fly trying to fly tie a fly that uh looks very similar to the bugs out there for example is like when you start tying flies that are very in a way realistic and trying to be very careful about imitating bugs perhaps you tie a mayfly that has three little tails on you know like sticking out on the back and you go there on your vise and you start putting like three little fibbits of nylon imitating those three little tails that kind of splay out but then you kind of forget that there's a big old hook sticking below that so that would be like a fourth tail and we tend to ignore things that are not very convenient sometimes um but you know in etymology kind of trying to imitate the shapes of bugs and that kind of thing, sizes, shapes, colors, texture.
8:04Those all work. But one thing that is really interesting and where entomology, I think, kind of is kind of neat to understand in both the Western fly fishing as well as the Tenkara world is the difference is that in Western fly fishing a lot of times we focus a lot on the shapes, sizes, and colors. And in Tenkara, even if they're not trying to, a lot of times I think having a little understanding of what the bugs are doing underwater allows us to imitate motion, perhaps. So that's where I think Tenkara can use a little bit of knowledge of entomology, even if we kind of keep that one-fly philosophy. And what I mean by that is, for example, if you see a mayfly fluttering around in the air, and you can notice something in the air, too. Like sometimes you see these little tiny bugs flying around, and it's hard to tell.
9:04Like, you know, is that a mayfly? Is that a caddis fly? Until you see one up close. But, for example, one difference when they're flying is the mayfly is going to be flying, like, in straighter lines. whereas a catus is going to be fluttering around in like more erratic you know ways and the same thing the same kind of thing happens underwater where certain bugs are going to be behaving in different ways underwater they're going to swim in different ways they're going to cling to rocks and plants and branches and they're going to you know sometimes they'll drift down in different ways and they'll try to kind of come to the shore trying to go to the surface so there's a concept that a lot of times I think gets ignored, which is the idea of knowing what motion the bugs are doing. So I don't believe very strongly in the idea that fish are very picky about the shape and colors of the flies. I do think shape is somewhat important. But what Tenkara has taught me is that to pay a little bit of attention to motion. And, you know, in one of the previous episodes of this podcast and we have a video about that as well. I introduced it to the concept of different techniques that we use in Tenkara. So just as a recap, one of the primary techniques that we use is what we call the dead drift. You cast the fly upstream at least a little bit and you let the fly drift along with the current. You can actually cast the fly downstream closer to you and let the fly drift with the current as you start lowering the fly. If that doesn't work, Maybe we try different techniques.
10:43We might try pulsating the fly. So you cast a little bit of, kind of like a quarter upstream. As the fly goes downstream, you start pulsating the fly, kind of like twitching the fly up and down. If that doesn't work, you might try something a little different. You might try, for example, just having the fly drift, and then you stop the fly. And they let it drift and stop it for a second. Drift and stop. or you might just stop the fly in a certain place for two or three seconds, make it move to a different spot, make it stop there for a couple of seconds and so forth. So when I introduced it to those techniques, I don't think I talked so much about what we're trying to do here because in all frankness, it's probably not super important for you to know. It's kind of neat to know, but I think when you're actually fishing, you kind of experiment with those techniques and see what is triggering a fish that day. But essentially what we're doing is kind of imitating different bugs and different life cycles of bugs as they're behaving underwater or on the water.
11:51So, for example, a mayfly nymph, like when you see it underwater, and I'll give it a shout out to my friends Ralph and Lisa Cutter on this podcast. If you're interested in seeing and learning tons about how bugs behave underwater especially, look at their website, theflyline.com, or search for Bugs of the Underworld. It's an award-winning film that they put together showing all kinds of bugs underwater and it also shows trout and that kind of thing. but showing the bugs what they're doing underwater, how they're behaving. That's kind of like, I'll try to look for a preview of their film, but that's kind of like the key concept here. So if you look at bugs underwater, they're all behaving in different ways. You're going to see certain nymphs. They're going to be like swimming kind of upstream. So just imagine, for example, for a moment, you have a nymph on a rock. Like if you get a rock on a stream, oftentimes you turn it.
12:54You know, you get a rock from underwater, you turn it, and you're going to see some nymphs. You're going to see some kind of insects clinging onto the rock. At a certain stage of the life cycle, they might get away from the rock, and they might start swimming towards the surface to hatch. And what you might see underwater is going to be all kinds of different things. But you might see, for example, one of those nymphs trying to come up to the surface, which might be three feet away. And these are tiny little bugs. You know, they don't have tons of energy. and they're going to be like swimming in different kind of patterns and they might look like they're kind of pulsing their bodies up, but they get tired, you know, a foot in, and then all of a sudden they let the currents drift their bodies downstream as they recoup some of their energy. And then they're going to pulse upstream again and drift. And then they're going to pulse upstream until they get to the surface and they might drift one more time to kind of regain that energy and eventually they get to the surface, hopefully without being eaten before that happens.
13:58But that's kind of something kind of similar to the idea of pulsating the fly as it kind of goes downstream. You have this kind of life cycle or this life stage of the bug as it pulses towards the surface. Or you might see certain bugs that are going to be desperately trying to get to the shore. You might see a stone flying in, for example, trying to kind of crawl towards the shore. and you might do what is like a pulling technique, pulling the fly towards the shore. Akatas, for example, you know, like how many of you have ever skated a fly on the surface of the water? It's absolutely a great technique for Tenkara. But Akatas, like as it tries to get, you know, separated from the film of the water, you know, that there's a surface tension, it might kind of start fluttering, kind of trying to get the water droplets off its wings and it's going to kind of skate until it can break free and fly, flutter away. Oftentimes, if you ever see a big caddis hatch, you're going to see bugs kind of like stay on the surface film.
15:02But you can get your fly out there. And I've actually had a great experience happening a couple of years ago where Dr. Ishigaki was actually visiting me here in Colorado. And we were out. It was actually a large group of us. we were seven people fishing on the Colorado River. It was a very bright, sunny day and very, very slow fishing, even though there's a lot of fish in a particular piece of water. We caught like one or two fish among the seven of us pretty much the entire day. And the only thing that we could all kind of agree on that, you know, was being kind of making the fishing harder was the fact that it was very sunny and bright. And we just all said if the clouds came in, it would probably be good. And sure enough, right at around the time when we were all thinking about turning around and driving back to Boulder, some cloud cover came in. And the first thing I noticed was some bugs kind of flying in erratic motions in the air. And then I looked closer on the water and I noticed a few of these bugs were kind of like clung on to the surface of the water, skating essentially.
16:12And I started seeing rises happening slowly. And it was kind of neat to know what was going on at that point, just kind of having a little bit of that entomology background and realizing right away that these were catechists that came out as soon as the shadows of the clouds came in. And they started trying to break free from the water. And the trout started at first kind of subtly taking the flies, but all of a sudden they were exploding on those flies. And as soon as I noticed that and I caught a fish and somebody else caught a fish, And then I noticed that, you know, what was happening. And I told Dr. Ishigaki and I told everybody else in the group, I was like, hey, guys, there's a caddis hatch going on. Just try skating your fly on the surface. And the size of those bugs was about a size 12, so we didn't really have to switch flies. But it was the coolest experience. We started skating the flies on the surface, and everybody in the group was hooking fish left and right. And we had multiple doubles, you know, meaning two people caught fish at the same time.
17:13and that was like one of the best afternoons or evenings of fishing pretty much I've ever had and the clouds stayed on for probably about an hour and as soon as the sun came back out the caddis hatch kind of slowed down and the fish stopped taking at least on the surface but it was absolutely phenomenal to kind of know how you kind of understand a little bit of this relationship between entomology, understanding bugs, and making my fly fishing a little bit more effective. And I think that's kind of like one of the things we could all be a little bit more effective on if we understand a little bit more about our surroundings. I honestly, after doing a lot of the match and the hatch for years, I don't think matching the hatch is important. But understanding the motion of bugs underwater is really cool. and it's something that you know I should probably study a little bit more kind of understand like the you know what bugs might be observed underwater and how they're swimming underwater I've done a little bit of diving with snorkeling with Ralph and Lisa in California it's awesome bugs kind of doing interesting things probably something that I should do a little bit more often but if you have a little bit of a curiosity about bugs and how they behave underwater and I think it could improve your fly fishing with Tenkara, especially as we're not switching flies very much, look up their video of bugs on the underwater and you're probably going to get a few clues of things that you can do underwater.
18:45But that's kind of like where the understanding of bugs and then understanding techniques for Tenkara comes in handy. There's a relationship between the two. I have not and my teachers have never really made that clear or talked much about it it's almost like an intuitive thing that we're doing you know like if you think of a bug you know like when I started fly fishing I would think like oh how can I make my fly look more like a bug in the water you know like you know kind of shake it in different ways and I didn't know what I was doing I was just kind of following some weird intuition but I think now I know that that intuition comes from somewhere because we all see bugs out there and we all see them doing all kinds of things and you know and we kind of have an understanding that to entice fish we may want to make our flies look kind of buggy now the next question is how do we make it look you know very buggy in terms of matching the bugs that are currently hatching and swimming underwater in different seasons and make that kind of motion very realistic.
19:55So that's kind of a little question for you. You know, just learn a little bit more about bug motion underwater. I think that's way more important than imitating the shape of a particular bug is to understand the motion and then try to kind of match that with techniques that you can use with your Tenkara rod. So that's my thoughts for today. I kind of feel like I started off a little cold and got a little bit warmer here. I did this episode without any notes today. I just kind of had some thoughts going in my mind. And I appreciate your patience as my thoughts became a little, hopefully a little bit clearer as I covered this topic of entomology and tenkara. But I thought I'd share that with you because I've been thinking a little bit about it now that it's summer and there's a lot of mosquitoes up in the air. It's something that just came to me. In any case, thanks again for tuning in to the Tenkara Cast. And I hope to see you again for the next episode. And if you haven't seen our previous episodes, we have over 30 episodes right now.
21:01All kinds of things that I cover on this podcast. Take a look at previous episodes. See something that you like if you haven't been listening to them. And if you have any questions, email us, info at tenkarausa.com. send us a message on Facebook or Twitter. Just look us up at Tenkara USA. And I'll try to answer any questions that you might have in the next episode here. And until next time on the Tenkara Cast. and as always I'd like to thank our friend Nick Ogawa Takenobu you can find his music at takenobumusic.com I'll put a link on our website this is a song called Fishing I think very appropriate it's a song that made me learn about his work and totally fell in love with his music ever since. Thank him for letting us share his music here on the podcast.
22:05Take a look. He's got four beautiful albums on his website. So enjoy the rest of the song and listen to it on your next drive when you go fishing. Thank you.
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